The NY Times has a great piece on all things Apple and got a gold nugget of information from Mr. Jobs about upcoming devices:
Indeed, many of the new features in the Leopard operating system version are incremental improvements. But Mr. Jobs said he was struck by the success of the multitouch interface that is at the heart of the iPhone version of the OS X. This allows a user to touch the screen at more than one point to zoom in on a portion of a photo, for example.
“People don’t understand that we’ve invented a new class of interface,” he said.
He contrasted it with stylus interfaces, like the approach Microsoft took with its tablet computer. That interface is not so different from what most computers have been using since the mid-1980s.
In contrast, Mr. Jobs said that multitouch drastically simplified the process of controlling a computer.
There are no “verbs” in the iPhone interface, he said, alluding to the way a standard mouse or stylus system works. In those systems, users select an object, like a photo, and then separately select an action, or “verb,” to do something to it.
This actually jibes with what we've been hearing about upcoming devices. Multitouch. Multitouch. Multitouch.
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“People don’t
“People don’t understand that we’ve invented a new class of interface,”
what's so different about the iPhone interface to, let's say what Jeff Han did years ago... I remeber Steve quoting Picasso :"Good Artist Steal, Great Artists Copy".
Don't get me wrong the iPhone touch-userinterface is great, but they didn't invent all that stuff. Would be nice if he credited the people who where the pioneers in that field rather then taking all the glory for themselves...
Just a thought, as Macbooks
Just a thought, as Macbooks use 'two-fingers' to right click - can the trackpad already do multitouch?
Ok, I read the quote.
Ok, I read the quote. Where's my nugget of gold? It seems obvious to me that OS X Touch will become prolific. I would be at all surprised if there is a "Gesture Pad" next to the Touch Pad below the keyboard of notebooks. I would buy a $300 chichlet keyboard if it had a Gesture Pad on it..
I'm excited at the prospect of a horizontal scroll on my Mighty Mouse leading to some nie Cover Flow Finder browsing.
It's "Good artists copy.
It's "Good artists copy. Great artists steal", young man.
I fail to see the hint to
I fail to see the hint to new products. That they endorse the multi-touch is no secret. They put it in the iPod and most likely experimenting with it in a Notebook ("classify that as a research project" said Steve at the iMac release event in August when asked about MacBook Touch). So where's the hint to a new product?
He's right too! - how long
He's right too! - how long b4 we see the macbook without a keyboard at all- some sort of panel that sits where the keyboad is now thats just touch sensitive...(hence the screen will have no smear marks onit!)- its looking good for apple - things can only get better!
What is so unique about the
What is so unique about the iPhone? It's just a copy of the MyDevice from the Finnish technology company MyOrigo, back in 2003, thats four years earlier than the iPhone. The phone had, multitouch, motion-control, a digicam, smart phone applications and so on. Here is a link to an article about the phone: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/07/02/reg_testdrives_myorigo_motion_co...
What's unique about the
What's unique about the iphone is that it sells like Wow =)
Thanks for broadening the
Thanks for broadening the historical perspective, which makes this all more interesting. Yes, the iPhone may have features that first appeared elsewhere. Jobs'/Apple's strength has always been incorporating and popularizing technology. I think that's why we fanboys so anticipate new products, because the potential of something exciting appearing in a mainstream product appears more likely on a Mac than a PC. As the article also says, there have been few breakthroughs in the personal computer (PC or Apple) market in recent years, certainly none compelling enough to drive a surge in sales.
So whether a touchscreen incorporated into a laptop, or into a mouse for desktops, would be "unique" isn't the issue: It's how it might show us ways to increase productivity the way the iPhone did (I mean, let's take a poll: how many readers bought and used a MyDevice in 03?) Now that the technology's at hand, we sort of expect Apple to show us more to do with it.
Kudos btw to 9to5 for seeing that this was the nugged in the NYT piece. I read coverage of it in several other major mac sites and there was no mention of it; then i read the NYT article in full and this was the part that struck me, too (yeah, i'm a retired journalist).
If we can look forward to apple's incorporating the iPhone screen's technology in our computers, too, then that IS newsworthy. Jobs' comments fuel that hope.
Yes, you are certainly true
Yes, you are certainly true that the sales of the MyODevice were pretty miserable, partly because of lousy marketing and under-funding but also lack of credibility due to the small size of firm. One of the strongest strengths of Apple is it's abbility to create hype and its smart marketing. Still, there's no dening their products are good.
The point about the article which I too found interesting was the idea of a touchsreen. HP has a touchscreen laptop, but it hasn't caught on. Perhaps Apple has a new idea how this concept can be realised in a more workable and reliable fashion. It certainly would increase productivity when using a laptop for reading pdf's and alike.
multi-touch where?
I hear all these people say a bunch of other devices have multi-touch. I read that whole article and not once does it mention multi-touch. Only single touch.
To my knowledge, the only multi-touch products on the market are Apple.
Ok, maybe the current
Ok, maybe the current displays of Apple will be the last ones before Apple will come with touch-sensitive display's??...which offcourse will be supported by Leopard :)....a stupid idea perhaps....but an idea non the less...
That's all very well but
That's all very well but enough with the publicity and more upgrading of those lovely Macbook Pros please Mr. Jobs :)
Oh, and the Mac Pros for those rich kids..
What I want to see is a new
What I want to see is a new alumimouse that replaces the mighty mouse, same shape but no clicky parts, no clit-scroller, just a rounded multitouch surface across the "button" area. Left-click & right-click senstive areas where you expect them, but also up and down swipe to scroll, sideways swipe for coverflow and side scroll, and pinch gesture across the top for zoom in/out. Pinch your thum and third finger across the top of an apple mouse, it could work
That way those of us who have a non-iMac desktop can use multitouch too.
yeah, no verbs like "cut"
yeah, no verbs like "cut" and "paste"
HAHAHAHAH excelent
HAHAHAHAH
excelent
We may see multi-touch
We may see multi-touch computers in the near future, but I doubt we will see touch-screen ones anytime soon. Why? It's because of what SJ said at the conference with the iMac. He said that it would not be practical to have them.
so where's the MB and MBP
so where's the MB and MBP rumors at? :)
yet another "nugget" from
yet another "nugget" from 9to5
The new iMac's are
The new iMac's are iTouch/iPhones on steroids. The iMac's now sport that glass front/screen which will eventually lead to an all touch and no mouse computer. It's payback time for SJ in making him adopt the two button mouse. Forget the two button mouse -- NO MOUSE!
YOU DON'T REALLY WANT a
YOU DON'T REALLY WANT a VERTICAL MULTITOUCH SCREEN--try holding your arm out for a couple of minutes and see how fatigued you get. It doesn't work.
what I don't get yet, of
what I don't get yet, of course, is the stress that Jobs, Apple, and everyone else has been placing on multitouch... Will computing REALLY become all that different (now, I'm not talking about pocket-sized computers~)
how will the interface, such as, in, say the iMac, or a new Macbook Pro be significantly altered a year, or two years from now by Multitouch? will the screens be able to accept basic functions? I don't see myself using a tablet PC, or a GUI keyboard for a desktop or a laptop for that matter.
how would multitouch translate to, say, Photoshop, or iMovie, for that matter? would you take your fingers off the mouse/keyboard to touch the screen to copy/paste/zoom?
the possibilities with these systems are endless, I'd just like to see some of the practical applications, rather than being told that multitouch removes an intermediate phase from ultramobile computing input.
@Cowherd Have you seen the
@Cowherd
Have you seen the Microsoft Surface video yet? Think that, only not 1960's big. If I could get a, say a 2,560x2,560 pixel multitouch horizonal surface with a good GUI keyboard for something 'reasonable' for doing work where I dragged windows and selections and stuff with my fingers then I'd be all over that. Hot damn that would rock. Hot Damn!
Well; I've seen the
Well; I've seen the Microsoft Surface; and that's what I was actually dreading... I love my iPod for Audio and Video playback; but I can't say I fancy using a "Desktop" computer, or a laptop for that matter, that I'm looking down at. I'd rather have a large screen in front of me that I can look straight ahead at.
Working on a system similar to the MS Surface promises a few neckaches more than your average computer does~
I was thinking something
I was thinking something with a grade to it. Say %19 slope or so. You could put a small tray to the side along the bottom for wireless device 'docking' like Surface has. Plus people worked on real desktops for a very long time, some still do, without neckaches.
... that is to say, CowHerd,
... that is to say, CowHerd, there is no physical mouse or keyboard. There is only touch. And the desktop computer would finally live up to it's name and look like an actual desktop.
Apple may have borrowed
Apple may have borrowed ideas for the hardware of the iPhone but Apple have always been primarily a software company. Steve Jobs said once that the "ipod is just great software in a nice box". The touch screen is just about getting information from the user, the real magic is in the interface, that is what makes the iphone special.
it's a disaster for FPS
it's a disaster for FPS gamers, if the mouse's taken place by multi-touch screen.
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