I knowingly updated to 1.1.1 and did so because i knew at some point and time that it would be reversable. (and it already is!) i am going to wait a couple of months and see how everything pans out. you never know apple might decide to start letting 3rd party developers make apps. kind of what they did with dashboard and let everyone go crazy. it is still VERY early in the game to start taking sides. im going to see which team is the better of two evils. remember... one begets the other. corporations lead to hacks... hackers build corporations..... (apple, napster, etc.)

*Yawn* storm in a tea cup by a load of media whores all upset that their own unlocked iPhones can't be upgraded to 1.1.1

Don't want your phone re-locked? Just don't upgrade to 1.1. There. Simple, isn't it?

The broader public doesn't give a flying f**k .. they just want an iPhone.

Christ what a bunch of whiners.

"Apple certainly has a bright short term future with its lead position in the digital entertainment revolution, however its high P/E ratio is by and large a function of its brand."

Furthermore, I suggest you refrain from writing about things you obviously don't understand. Apple's "high" P/E ratio is a function of its incredible earnings growth, not its brand. If you're going to make comments about financial matters then I advise you to read "writing about stocks 101" before you trip over your shoelaces :)

i do believe that SJ is now a clinical megalomanic and control freak. with the iphone he flipped his wig. just sell the product to every cell phone company? nooooo. he wants a cut of everthing, and now he is really PO'd that the hackers burst his little bubble. back when apple charged 2.99 (or whatever) for enabling wireless N, i though 'this is not a good sign'...the apple tv? lock that baby down! besides the utube upgrade, where are the hot new features??? music? itunes only. i think apple has now crossed the line where you need a certain amount of control to provide a positiv customer experience with a dictator-like 'its my way or the highway'....

"We here a 9to5mac speak on behalf of everyone".

It's not "universally" despised by the media. You only quote a few. You are obviously very angry, and it comes out in your writing every day. But that does not make it a universal feeling. And when you say "(under 20%?)" you might be talking about under 5%.

Furthermore, what does talk about "licensing" have to do with bricking phones? You are just on a rampage.

By the way, it's "calculable", not "calculatable".

I don't see any "real" media companies on the list there, other than MacWorld, if this news makes their published magazines, and ZDnet. As Popular as the blogs making all the noise are with the geek community, they are not media that are relevant to MOST people that Apple targets as consumers. We tech geeks who read all the tech and Apple blogs get a very distorted view of reality and forget that only a relatively small number of the consumers that Apple targets actually read this stuff we are inundated with.

Now, when ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC, NPR, BBC, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and whatever non-US general media outlets matter in their particular countries start making noise about this, that will be media attention that matters and could hurt Apple. Until then, it's just, as another commenter puts it, a tempest in a teapot.

This is a joke, right? Dude, this article is so full of FUD it isn't funny.

Prove to me that Apple bricked these phones on purpose. Did you ever think that these "unlocking" apps screwed with something that Apple already changed while working on the update? Did they not warn people that this could be the case? Does Apple really need to make sure that their software updates work with hacks and unsupported software? Gimme a break. 99.9% of people who own an iPhone could care less about unlocking it or running some lame app like a NES emulator. Stop your crying and be realistic.

I recently added this blog to my NNW, but now I think it is time to unsubscribe. Bye.

I don't see the problem. Apple assumes you legally entered into a contract and they put an update out to help the legal public iphone users. They are not reponsible for the groups of hackers out there that are not happy with being bound to AT&T. Those hackers shouldn't cry when there poor little phones are labeled a brick. When someone buys a new car and changes everything in the engine... The car company aren't going to cover the new add ons... What's the problem here? NOT APPLE.

Both sides of this argument seem a little angry here. Sheesh!

I think the competition from Nokia (and in another way, the competition from the recently-opened DRM-free Amazon music store) will be great for the consumer. It's no surprise that Apple will move to protect its interests if they have innovated beyond the rest of the field. Competition should even things out and force Apple (if SJ isn't the raging Charles Foster Kane type he's been portrayed to be here) to be more open.

To the uninformed...tell me a phone that is provider locked in the EU? N95? LG Prada? ANY MS Phone? There not a single one. If we want the phone we simply pay a higher premium, which is expected.

Phone online with contract might cost free to say £200 depending on contract, etc...or I could go to sites like expansys and just buy phones off line for a premium. I dont mind paying £400+ for a phone I know is offline. Why apple did not or are not taking this route I dont know. One thing is for sure, there is a reason why nokia sell 1 million phones a day and not 10 million in a year (listen El Jobso)...Apple could of made a total killing by simply selling the phone totally offline for say £600ish and simply give AT&T (NSA...eeek) a slice of that fee to appease them. This way u make profit and the PDA/smartphone market becomes the iPhone market...mobile market becomes iTunes market...think.

Anyways...1.0.2 and lovin it...Apple we like ur phones we just wont die for them...here is a question for T-mobile US, how users dropped off when the update came out? Heck I personally think there are more people using it on Tmobile than NSA/ATT.

Typed on a MacBookPro 2Gb RAM / 2.4Ghz Intel...8 days old...

I, for one, can't wait to purchase my two iPhones - both running 1.1.1. One for me, one for my wife. The improved security is just what I was hoping for. Too bad Microsoft doesn't take security as seriously, Windows Mobile 5 & 6 suck when compared to the iPhone.

As for all the whining hackers out there (site author included), I'm pretty darn sure that at some point growing up your mothers did teach you that when you don't play by the rules, you end up paying for it. You just learned that lesson the hard way.

Listen to your mother next time. Or go buy a Zune... I hear they're real cheap nowadays. Maybe you can hack it into a phone for Uncle Bill?

Why should Apple have to take into account every existing and potential third-party modification to the iPhone when designing its upgrades to the phone?

There is no evidence at all that Apple deliberately bricked modified iPhones or removed third-party applications; no evidence at all.

It sucks not get get exactly what you want, huh? waaaah.

Solution: don't f**king but an iphone. Don't buy any more apple products. Move on. Get on with life.

I will be unsubscribing to this RSS feed. Wow. I get that you dished out $500 bucks to break an iPhone, but to hear you cry? Geez.

If I buy a new Honda and re-program the in-dash computer system, do you think they are gonna pay for any damage it causes? Do you think they'll just re-flash the memory for free?

I'd rather have you go buy a Windows Mobile phone and take your whining elsewhere. Your logic here is baffling. My 5 year old kid sounds more logical.

All this so called righteous chant by people like you who think it's their God-given right to hack anything and do whatever the heck they want is disgusting.

And I'll bet the number of hacked iPhones out there is <1%.... probably <0.01%.

Count me unsubscibed.

So, if the world at large is so against the 1.1.1 update, how come AAPL stock is trading up $2.25 as I type this?

I think it is a disappointment for the folks that wanted the iPhone to be their modding playground, but that doesn't make it a disappointment for everyone else.

In fact, probably THE most common complaint about the iPhone was indeed the call volume, and this fixes that. I'd venture to say it is a good thing for a lot more people than it's a bad thing.

Re: "APPLE PURPOSELY DESTROYS ITS OWN PRODUCT TO KEEP IT FROM BEING USED IN WAYS IN WHICH IT DOES NOT SEE FIT"

Or most likely not. For an actually well thought out, reasoned opinion that suggests otherwise, everybody reading this site should go read Engadget's open letter to both iPhone users and Apple: http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/01/a-note-to-both-apple-and-iphone-custo...
It makes a lot more sense than the breathless screaming and foaming at the mouth going on at 9to5 Mac.
And really, the picture of the sheep, suggesting anyone installing the 1.1.1 update was stupid and sheeplike, was unbelievably insulting. I hope it wasn't aimed at the 99 percent of iPhone owners who couldn't give a rip about installing third-party applications on this phone.
Cheers.

Was the iPhone shipped unlocked? I think not. Did very smart people hack it in a few months? I think so. Will they be able to hack this one? I think so. Was everyone who unlocked/hacked/whatevered their phone warned? Absolutely. The answer, if you hacked and didn't upgrade yet? Wait, they will hack it again. If you already tried it, go to the Apple store, feign ignorance, get it fixed and then wait. Honestly, people act like the same smart guys that worked it the first time have all died, and won't be able to do it again, and again, and again...

I think this is simply Apple having to make good on promises it made to ATT. It got a hell of a deal with ATT, and probably had to promise it would really stop people from hacking to get off the network. It's a deal signed with the Devil, maybe, but understandable.
Why else would they do this? There's nothing in it for Apple.

steve

Love the phone, love the update, and looking forward to more of them ... and down the road in a year or so, hoping that 'vouchsafed' 3rd party apps will appear for sale in the iTunes store ... and that other version iPhones start to appear for use with other carriers ... nice if they were just unlocked ... (hoping that the 5 year agreement with ATT applies only to THIS phone, not other future form factors ...)

But for right out of the gate, this deal with the devil was a given, and Apple is bound by legal agreements with ATT. (Sure there is mututal back scratching ... they both stand to benefit.) Their other option was to do their own network with one of those piggyback lease deals, but you'd be trapped on that one too and they'd have taken on more risk and would have been more beholden to whatever carrier to implement the mainframe changes that they need to have ...

Apple has made it's position crytal clear, there is nothing out there that would constrain them to test the effect of an update on a hack.

By all means hack the iPhone and have fun doing it ... but why anyone would do that and then assume that they can install an official Apple update on top of it and still have everything go smooth as silk has some sort of meglamaniac complex of some sort.

I don't have a iphone. I hope they wont brick my macpro when I go and buy one in december. that would be a load of bricks.