New iPhone models spotted in iPhone 3.0 OS, "iProd" and "iFPGA"
What have we here? It was only a matter of time (and it almost seems like Apple is leaking this on purpose at this point), but Ars found some extra little bits of code in the 3.0 OS that indicate that there will be not one but two new iPhones, a new iPod touch and two mysterious new products that will run this OS called "iProd" and "iFPGA".
Just FYI FPGA stands for Field-programmable gate array - you can learn more than you ever wanted to know about that here.
We don't know about you but, we've wanted the iProd since forever and will be buying 4 of them the second they are released.
The new codes:
iPhone2,1 - 0×1294
iProd0,1 - 0×1295
iPod2,2 - 0×1296
iPhone3,1 - 0×1297
iFPGA - 0×1298
iPod3,1 - 0×1299″
The old codes:
iPhone First Gen - 0×1290
iPod touch 1G - 0×1291
iPhone 3G - 0×1292
iPod touch 2G - 0×1293
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Is probably an FPGA-based emulation of the next iPhone. These things are always built and all software tested on them before silicon comes back if you're building a device based on a new chip. If that's the case it strongly implies that Apple are doing their own SOC this time rather than buying it in. Pretty obvious given their acquisitions and investments lately, but this is another smoking gun.
I agree. That's what I was immediately thinking when I saw FFPGA. My bet is that these are just for internal development and testing of non-production bench hardware, and don't represent specific new lines of production devices.
So when the run a iPhone simulation, would it run on a hardware emulator?
this is probably not the right place to put this comment, but i want to be able to run the iPhone OS on something other than the iPhone or iPod. put the iPhone OS into VMWare or something and let me play apps! i guess this would be a little much because of the touch interface, but i still want it.
It would be awesome if there was an iPhone Simulator that could run iPhone applications and services on a Mac!
Yeah, yesterday it came to me that dashboard would be the perfect place for iphone emulation in Mac OS. Just imagine all the new app store revenue as you buy these for your big machine!
you wouldn't have a touch interface.
or accelerometers... it'd be really funny try and play trism on my 24" iMac :)
You can already do this if you have downloaded the iPhone SDK. It comes with an iPhone simulator that runs on the Mac desktop.
FPGA = Flat Panel Gaming Appliance
iProd.. some kind of "iPhone Pro"? With QWERTY keyboard? :or "iPod Pro"? :)
it is beta.. anyone consider that it might be a typo?
it is beta.. anyone consider that it might be a typo?
Or that it might not be an actual product name. I imagine that things like final names are left until fairly late in development. Seems like Prod would be short for product or prototype ipod, nothing specific.
Could you explain to me how this indicates that this other device will be running an OS that is not the iphone OS?
Don't get me wrong. It would be cool if this wasn't running the iphone OS because that would mean that this is something totally new.
But why would the string contain information like this on the iphone 3.0 beta?
i can't help thinking that apple dev's sometimes just trick people with fake products in there software beta's...
iProd = "iProduct" for short. It is not an actual name for a product but a placeholder for a product or most likely iPhone revision.
We already heard about iProd before... http://www.newscientist.com/blog/technology/2008/04/say-hello-to-iprod.html
Don't forget iHoax and iTrickedYa and iJoke.
I've heard from some of my sources that the new iPhone will be released at the same time as the 3.0 software will be released. This would be around the WWDC time. I also heard that "something NEW" is coming...possibly a tablet?
I wonder if 2,1 is the next-gen iPhone for AT&T and 3,1 is the first iPhone for Verizon (going back to those rumors). The iPhone for Verizon would have to have a CDMA radio in it. Could that warrant a new hardware revision? I sure hope so...
No Verizon iPhone in the US. AT&T exclusive is still exclusive. If not, we'd know. That's not a secret Verizon would keep quiet.
Unless Uncle Steve ordered to shut the hell up. And you KNOW he has the power to do that. AT&T did as they were told and now they are very happy that they did.
If verizon was smart and there is a deal with apple then would shut the hell up if they knew what was good for them.
I'm sure that Apple has a so-called CDMA design in the works - even if they don't have a US carrier yet, there are certainly several other countries with so-called CDMA providers.
I think the problem with Verizon is that they're unlikely to subsidize a phone unless it supports features like fee-for-service GPS, V-Cast, and other Verizon-managed software systems, and restricts/prohibits competing apps. And so a Verizon iPhone might cost twice that of an iPhone through AT&T.
Not so good. But Sprint is a CDMA carrier is well. I think that's MUCH more likely.
Why do anyone still use CDMA?
GSM 3G has a faster data speed.
Your retarded, GSM is a newer tech, but certainly NOT superior! Get your facts straight before you go spouting off at the mouth about something you obviously know NOTHING about!
I know my facts. But you don't
CDMA is a newer tech then GSM.
And both have upgaded there thech after they came out.
Like gprs->EDGE->3G.. for the GSM part
GSM is packed based, so you can have data and voice connection at the same time.
CDMA is not packed based you you have to have more then one "line" to beable to send/resive data and voice at the same time.
This mean that you are taking up more channels on a mast to do it at the same time.
In the beginning CDMA had higher data rate then GSM, but at the momen GSM is faster
You either know exactly what you're talking about, but are on so much acid that you can't express it, or you're delusional.
Both can send and receive voice and data at the same time. They both multiplex the underlying channel.
They're both simply different implementations of the same basic ideas, with slightly different attributes. On the whole, neither is "better" than the other, and their standards are converging.
In the States, both standards exists. In other countries, it's generally one or the other, with GSM being the most popular.
Neither has substantially better quality, bandwidth, or pricing. Neither works through walls better, has more range, or has more capability. Those who make such claims are merely referencing about their local experience with their local provider.
You think they added Landscape Mode just for the iPhone? This OS will be running on something bigger. Now, all Apple has to do is drop touch screen versions of it's iLife and iWork suites into the App store and we are off and running!
Really that is the first thing I though when I saw iProd. Considering iPhone OS Unix underpinnings I'm surprised the device was called iFork. I just have this image in m mind that a bunch of Apple engineers are rolling on the floor laughing at the rumors sites.
From their perspective it would be a pretty good joke. The iFPGA is a different story and at first I agreeded with others here that the device was a Field Programmable Gate Array emulation as that would be a common approach for development. Then somebody had to mention Flat Panel Gaming Appliance which could have some basis in reality. Especially if the coming flat panel device is of either the iPod or Apple TV families. Being Beta software though I'd have to Guess that the reference is to a gate array mockup.
Dave