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Extremely glad about everything they brought in. Especially turn by turn GPS. Would have liked flash and video but not the end of the world really. Odd how they left tethering till the Q&A, maybe that will be another push notification saga, or they're gonna charge for it. Here's hoping not.
Seth, what about the tablet/netbook????
those 10 inch touch screens have to go somewhere, don't they?
Tethering would have been huge
It was announced in the Q&A.
Q: Where do you stand on tethering?
A: There’s two pieces needed to support that: client side and working with carriers. We’re absolutely supporting tethering in the client side in iPhone 3.0, but we’re working with carriers around the world to see when they can add tethering support on their networks. But we are building that support into iPhone 3.0.
This is exactly what I expected. Apple is expanding it's API and providing a refined set of user features.
This presentation was designed to help developers plan for new applications. It isn't necessarily everything that will be available in iPhoneOS v3. I'd expect the iPhone 3.1 follow-on to come out that supports new, super-secret and not-so-obvious features.
Apple's goal now is to (1) beta test the core OS upgrade and (2) get the APIs in the hands of developers, and (3) let users know that some new features are on their way.
Of course, the beta can't have every new secret idea in it. Later, I suspect Apple will spring entirely new "OS 3.1" ideas on us, likely in concert with new devices by Apple and/or its competitors.
bluetooth for ipod touch woooot!! now, seriously, do you think i can bluetooth my cellphone 3G data connection to my friggin ipod??!! *swoons in the heat*
ipod touch 2G + any bluetooth cellphone modem = iphone ??
Who wants to be the one to tell these guys that there is no bluetooth in the iPod Touch
I thought I remembered something about the 2G touch having an un-activated bluetooth chip in it. It was in one of the tear-downs when it first came out.
Sorry, I'm not enthused enough to look it up, I'm buying a house so my 1G touch is going to have to be good enough for me for another year or so!
Woo! House!
I'm just so happy iphone got a landscape keyboard for all apps starting with mail.
WOWHOO!!
Clearly this event was (just as said in a previous comment) all about giving the developers the time to beta test it while still letting the users know that they are in Apple's minds. There will be more features in 3.0 but we won't be seeing them until Apple makes hardware announcements this summer. Apple is only going to put in the beta the features that are relavent to developers. All of the features announced today need developer support. All the stuff that doesn't need developer support won't be announced until the latest moment possible. I still think tethering is compng and I also think that Apple has some surprises that no on has thought of yet, but like I said, not until summer.
There won't be any more features. This is a beta, not an alpha.
The iPhone 3G has more advanced bluetooth and GPS that the original iPhone doesn't have - so it has some features (better GPS positioning, duh) that older hardware revisions don't have.
My take is that the newest iPhone will support video chat and make it all the rage. Improvements with the NAND flash memory will allow for better speed of buffering all that data and then streaming it (Qik) or saving it on the phone itself.
I'm not mad at Apple. They made a very good phone (best out there sill IMHO) and no one but Palm even has anything compelling in the works much less released. If this economy turns around I may be holding a new iPhove AV this summer!
Tethering is officially supported in OS 3.0. Apple is in talk with phone companies about the contracts, but it's in there.
They said that in the Q&A at the end.
I'm a bit dumbfounded by the lack of background tasks. I'm wondering how turn by turn navigation is going to work without it. You don't think that a phone call will bounce you out of the navigation program, do you?
Isn't it reasonable to want to have a Twitter app, an IM session, and music playing all at the same time so that I can switch between them without waiting for them to reload? I can't imagine why waiting on TCP socket I/O to complete is going to chew the battery up. What's going on under the hood?
That's a good question and I'm pretty sure they will make an exception with that. (Can I be on a 3G network and receive calls at the same time?).
Also, why do stopwatches and alarms work in the background?
That's a good question and I'm pretty sure they will make an exception with that. (Can I be on a 3G network and receive calls at the same time?).
Also, why do stopwatches and alarms work in the background?
Maybe it's considered a non-feature feature, but I'm still hoping for a unified mailbox (like in Mail itself on my Mac); I have four accounts and it's a pain switching back and forth from one inbox to another.
...iPhone/iPod Touch.
Yes. This is what the iPhone should have been at launch. These were the promised (read: insinuated) features. So now, they're finally up to snuff with a real phone on the basic applications and adding innovation for some new ones.
You're an idiot for ever thinking that most of these features were promised, or even insinuated originally. Apple even denied the need for an SDK at first.
My sense from this presentation is that Apple's priority is in raising the bar for a "platform". I.e., it's not _primarily_ about features that an end-user sees directly (though there is some of that), nor even about giving developer new toys (though they appear to get quite a few of those), but making an ecosystem so rich and so expensive, that the competition won't be able to replicate it. I see the following in that light:
- programmatic access to the dock connector
- in-app content
- centralized push notification system
- availability on all iPhone hardware so far
Would-be competitors will have to have something very close to get a significant slice of mindshare, and the more they wait, the more Apple's dominance gets entrenched. (Cfr. what the iPod connector has already achieved in the MP3 player market. This seems to me to be the same game plan executed more broadly.)
I'm curious when we'll see the first "game pad" accessory for the iPhone. I would not be wholly-surprised to see Apple announce one along with the next-gen iPhone, just to encourage a "standard" for game developers.
flash & video recording were exactly the things i still wanted
The only possible reason I would ever want to have flash in my browser is for video. But lets face it - flash is technology from the 90s and needs to die. Adobe can't make a decent version that runs on an ARM processor much less OS X so just give up on the Flash comments.
99% of what flash can do can be done with javascript or another media player plugin.
Personally, I'm enjoying the web without flash ads (hint, hint 9to5mac)
As for video - wait for new hardware.
What happened to double-tapping to zoom in on a paragraph? Now that double-tapping will do copy and paste, how do users do the quick zoom? I sure hope that functionality is not lost because I use it all the time.
Double-tap to cut/copy/paste in open text apps. In Safari, you click and hold to initiate the cut/copy.
Oh and for the guy who asked who was going to be the one to break it to these guys that there is no bluetooth in the iPod Touch... You're wrong. The 2nd gen Touch when it first came out, those who took it apart found a new chip in it. Some thought it was just the Nike + receiver, but then the manufacturer posted info on the new chip on their website which was very interesting. It mentioned that among other things it was a bluetooth chip. Apple has just never unlocked this hidden feature.... quite yet. In the Q&A they specifically said that the 2G Touch had bluetooth functionality that will be unlocked. :)
That is the think I am most looking forward to. Hoping it'll allow to donwload maps and not sync them live, as this might make it useful abroad too...
The rest?
I am really happy Apple allowed all iPhone users to have the latest features. This thing has not been stressed enough in my opinion.
It defenitely is a paradigm shift from Hardware focus to software focus. And users benefit from it because, albeit not necessarily the greatest an newest hardware, they can have phones that have increased functions without necessarily having to purchase a whole different device, as it is now with all other manufacturers.
So yes, I am happy with what Apple delievered as I think it both makes sense and is positive for customers.
Don't get me wrong, it was a great event. I wasn't even complaining about the lack of copy and paste and i still can't wait to use it. And the search feature...i was just thinking how great it would be if i could have a global search on my ipod touch/iphone. Plus i can see a lot of really amazing functionality coming to applications in the future thanks to the new SDK and the ability to have push notifications.
I also like that apple is opening up the api's of the key applications on the iphone like the ipod, maps, email, etc. This means no more jumping around when ever an application wants to show you something like directions to the nearest free wifi spot, plus my visualizer finally has access to my music so it doesn't require a microphone.
I want to make something perfectly clear though, i don't give a flying f**k about flash. It's definitely not a deal breaker and to be honest i could live without it perfectly fine. I don't see what the big deal is. Video does seem to be a curious exclusion though.
There are a few things i would like to see come to the software:
1. It's great that apple added the landscape feature to it's key applications, but i would like to see the home screen gain the ability to be viewed in landscape also. Doesn't seem like it would be that difficult.
2. During the demonstration by Forstall of copy and paste it all of a sudden occurred to me that it would be nice to have a "last application" gesture of some sort so you can quickly go back to the application you just left. It could be like holding your thumb to the screen while shaking.
3. An easier way to organize applications. I hate having stray applications and files just laying around on my desktop on my mac. I believe in a good filing system. I'd like to see the same functionality on the iphone OS.
3a. For starters there should be an easier way to rearrange applications on the home screens. It's god aweful trying to move an application you just downloaded from the first screen all the way to the last. What if there was a spaces like interface that activated when you dragged the application to a specific location on the screen like a designated corner. Or it could activate while trying to move an application and simultaneously pushing the home button.
3b. Folders. That would be nice. I saw one of my friends jailbroken iphones, and he's able to organize his applications into folders. Just think about it...suddenly you don't have 8 pages of applications that you have to scroll through all at once. Your in the mood for games? just go to your games folder. For me personally, i have three different applications that i have to use for public transportation because there isn't a single application that does them all as good as they do them separately. Why not throw them all in a single folder?
4. Finally, customization. It's nice being able to change my wallpaper on my front screen, but i only see that for the .2 seconds it takes me to swipe my finger across the screen at which point i'm jettisoned to a generic home screen. Where did my wallpaper go? is it too much to ask for a little color? Scott Forstall put it best: there are 30 million other iphones and ipod touches out there. Aside from the different applications, why do they all have to look alike? What if they introduced something like a customization store or section of the app store where you could buy new themes, backgrounds, icons all designed by apple approved developers?