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Woz, Keeping it RealTue, 10/30/2007 - 03:25 — Chauncey Dupree
In case it isn't painfully obvious, he's with the hackers. He also takes a minor swipe at his fellow Steve Apple co-founder and asks "why the double standard?" Obviously AT&T is the easy scapegoat if you want one. But really, is it that hard to release an unlocked phone? It definitely is easy in Europe and Apple is still locking it here. Can't blame big bad AT&T for that one. I guess you can speak freely when you don't have thousands of shareholders and communications monopolies to please. BTW, now that all it takes to open the iPhone to applications is browsing to a website, is there anyone left who hasn't unlocked their iPhone? If so, what are you waiting for?
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Apple is becoming a very
Apple is becoming a very large company that's increasingly good at making money (=greedy, to a certain extent). I doubt very much that Steve Jobs himself gives a rats ass about whether or not people install their own ringtones ... but it isn't surprising that Apple as a company chose not to pass up the opportunity to earn yet another shitload of money off of bought and paid for ringtones (even though the songs had already been bought and paid for and that the users already had every right to play back those songs on their iPhone).
I always get a kick out of
I always get a kick out of people deriding corporations for being good at making money. In case you weren't aware... that's why they exist in the first place. If you don't like their business practices, then take your business elsewhere. It's that simple.
BTW. I agree with Woz.
You know what I like about
You know what I like about these old pictures of the Steves? They both look like freaks. The thing about having serious IT skills is that you can look like a fucking nutjob and nobody calls you out on it.
I mean would you let either of these two guys babysit your kid? Helllll no!
but run your 100 Billion dollar company? Oh Yeah!
They look like the go-to
They look like the go-to guys for psychedelic custom bongs!
Hey Woz, can I get a Wizard bong that looks like Obi-wan?
Maybe Woz should run Apple
Maybe Woz should run Apple and Jobs should do some charity work?
For some reason the article
For some reason the article is offline for me. Was the interview done prior to the SDK being announced? If not I'm not sure WTF Woz is talking about. If it was done prior to the SDK announcement I think that shows just how out of the look Woz is on these matters. Meaning we really should heed his mea cupa of not knowing why exactly Apple charges for ringtones.
That is unless he has inside
That is unless he has inside knowledge of what is in the SDK. Which I seriously doubt. Given how tight-lipped Apple is do you really think they'd let a loose cannon like Woz know anything about anything? :)
BTW I wonder how soon Apple
BTW I wonder how soon Apple patches up that security hole that allows the Jailbreak. Like they should. Seriously, that's one scary exploit.
Flashback, I was the custom
Flashback, I was the custom bong guy in college - now I'm behind a desk with a button down on (no tie, what a rebel). Freaks!! We all looked like that : )
The freaks wore Izod.
Steve Wozniak know nothing
Steve Wozniak know nothing about Apple and how Steve Jobs et al make decisions. This quote, in no way, is authoritative proof that Steve Jobs is being hypocritical. Jobs has long stated that DRM sucks, but he sold DRM'd media b/c that was the only way to build the business. I don't know what the reasons are for the ringtone situation; however, Jobs' past actions suggest that external pressures forced the issue. Woz is as ignorant as any other joe off the street who write this blog.
Nobody will be complaining
Nobody will be complaining when Apple wins the bid for the FCC frequencies due to "excessive greed" next year.
Remember: It's about spreading OSX. The e-devices are the door openers.
Has anybody noticed that
Has anybody noticed that Steve has come a long way? Does anybody remember the Bluebox? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_box) Well now he swims with the stream and I guess Woz has to keep it real...
In response the the writer
In response the the writer ot this article, I think it really is that hard to release a popular unlocked phone in America and you know that. Sure it may be easy in Asia and Europe, but why would an American company with a loyal American consumer base ever introduce a product only to Europe or an upgraded version of a current American product to Europe? I really do appreciate this site for its news and excellent source for rumors and what not, but you guys write some of the most short sighted coments on articles. I consistently see questions like this one about how hard is it to release in unlocked phone in everywhere but America. We all know its possible but troublesome and you should know that Apple would be scrutinized by all of their American customers if they ever did that. Also, Apple would be shooting its amazing new phone in the foot by releasing it unlocked to a country of people that largely have no idea what to do with or how to work an unlocked phone. The SDK is coming, there is a plan in motion here that you and I are not aware of. All of this greedy Apple talk is based on an astouding lack of knowledge. Apple is a multi-billion dollar company that operates with loyal fanbase, many of which are consumers of Apple products because of superior design and a less greedy feel of doing business. I really doubt that Apple is going to turn into a super greedy company that screws its costumers right when their bussiness is doing better then ever. That would be saying goodbye to a big fanbase that they could not afford to lose.
An unlocked phone has
An unlocked phone has nothing different to the average joe. They won't even realized it's unlocked so to say that they wouldn't know what to do with it is an invalid responce to the arguement. All an unlocked version would do is provide an opportunity to for those of us who know what to do... simply change sim cards... to do it. I hope soon that locking phones will be illegal in the USA, and I know Congress is looking at that, but I just hope it happens. Locking a phone to a carrier is simply bad business and I am baffeled as to why cell carriers think they are different. Panasonic home phones are not "locked" to comcast phone service and GE is not locked to XYZ land line phone company. I hope we can eventually catch up to the rest of the cell phone world since we are behind.
So Apple would be scutinized
So Apple would be scutinized by their customers for releasing an unlocked phone?
I think that apple's locking
I think that apple's locking of the iPhone is sad and rediculous, but if you look at the differences between the iPhone and other phones is that AT&T had to change some of its practices for the iPhone to become a reality. Visual Voicemail is one example- ATT had to add that capability into their network, and you may use visual voicemail in an unlimited fashion. Also the unlimited internet was a must for the iPhone to be a major player, but under other data plans before that was almost a $40 or more a month added to your regular voice plan- not good if you are trying to sell an iPhone! SO AT&T had to agree to a data plan that made more sense starting $20 more a month... I have no idea if the rumors are true about apple getting a cut from every month of my wireless bill but that would suck. And having to sign a 2-yr contract with AT&T and get no rebates or anything also sucks. But that's also the reason I'm waiting on my purchase of the iPhone until a 3G 16GB version comes out.
The relevance of this debate
The relevance of this debate has shifted now that Apple has announced an official SDK for February. Let's reserve our judgement until we see just how "open" Apple's signing and delivery system is.
As far as we know, you might not be required to get your app digitally signed if you don't play to distribute your creation. That would allow you to personally hack your device all you want. In converse, you might require a signature in order to access higher level filesystem and networking functions (i.e. services required to maliciously propagate your software onto other phones). Apple might even require signage and ask for a hefty fee.
The point is, it's all speculation. Until we have the data, can it with the crusading and doom and gloom, get your knickers untwisted, have a cup of coffee, and wait.
P.S. I love you, Woz, but you didn't invent the personal computer. 8-)
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