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What does ZFS mean for the Macintosh Platform?Sat, 06/09/2007 - 11:52 — Seth Weintraub
So if you are in the first group let me please suggest some reading then you can come back once we are all on the same page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS Now that we are in the second group we need to discuss a few things: Jonathn Schwartz said that "ZFS would be the filesystem for Leopard". This could mean a lot of things Remember, Solaris was only able to boot from ZFS in 2006, 2 years after the format was built and is still not the default format.
Most likely, Jonatan Schwartz misspoke when he stated that it would be THE Disk format of Leopard will be ZFS and it will likely be A format that is supported, as you can already see in Leopard. It is good news, however, that it is on Apple and Sun's radar and it is only a matter of time before it can be put into production.
Now for the downside. ZFS is a complicated file system. One that is new and foreign to a lot of companies. If you are running ZFS with a couple of hard drives on your Mac Pro, and you have a serious disk failure on one of the disks, you are unlikely to be able to whip out your Diskwarrior CD and solve the problem. It took Diskwarrior a year to work on Intel Machines, how long will it take to catch up to a new file system - after 20 years of HFS and HFS+? The idea (in theory at least) is that ZFS can be set up to miror drives or RAID drives and will do this transparantly to the average user. Of course I'll let someone else to be the first to roll this out to their users. Another interesting area that the ZFS file system will allow the MAcintosh to create a sea change will be in the home theater arena. Currently, when you run out of space (and with higher quality music, more megapixel cameras and HD videos coming out , you will) you have to add another hard drive to your machine. This can range from plugging in an external USB Drive to going under the hood and installing some more SATA drives to your rig. Then you have to format your drive and add it to the list. Then you have to remeber which drive you put everything on... What if... You bought a Macintosh....let's call it a Mac Mini Pro. It boots from 32GB of Solid state RAM same basic formfactor as the current model - but with a SATA connector on the top. Then there is a lego-like SATA stacking drive enclosure that apple sells. When you want to add more space, you simply stack another drive on top of your mini. When the new drive is detected, the Disk Utility asks if you would like to add that drive to the pool. A click and some pinwheels with a progress bar and you have more storage. Once its in the pool, you'll have to "Eject it" to release it into the wild again. Let's see Windows do that!
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MacOS and Solaris
Why doesn't Apple just agree to replace OSX with Solaris - Sun has all the innovation in the network Apple has on the desktop. Seems so easy...
That's funny. I've never
That's funny. I've never seen Solaris and innovative used in the same paragraph before.
ZFS, Macs, and ordinary folk.
I doubt if regular folk will be using ZFS. I think Apple put it in to accommodate it's 'Pro' clients. Folks who have several HD movies they are working on, and absolutely must have the space & security that ZFS provides.
I have set up ZFS several times, and once (as a test) on 4 146GB disks. It worked, but it was a dumb idea. The 'pool' (zpool) was too small (number of 'vdevs'), it was not possible to creatively use the disks in the manner that a real production filesystem would require. Spares, setting up for backup, hot-swap drives, etc., were all impossible with such a limited 'vdev' set.
I think that Apple will be using it to run it's X-San, or a cabinet full of X-San, and provide the 'Pro' user (AND administrator!) with what they've always wanted & needed with respect to 'storage'.
I DO wonder, however whether Apple will put the ZFS 'raidz' algorithms INTO X-San, and eliminate the 'old' code. This would make the whole system tightly integrated.
Because right now, with most SANS having RAID as an integral part of their function, ZFS is less useful than it COULD be.
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