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Following Apple’s earnings report yesterday, where it recorded its first quarterly revenue decline since 2003, CNBC spoke with 9to5Mac’s Benjamin Mayo about Apple’s potential future products and revenue streams. Benjamin discusses Apple’s expanding Services sector including Apple Music, the realities of Apple Watch growth possibilities, and more.

Watch the full interview in the embed below.

Despite falling earnings, Apple executives remained optimistic about iPhone and iPad sales in future quarters on its investor earnings call. The company appears to be focusing heavily on Services for additional revenue streams, announcing Apple Music subscribers rose to 13 million.

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