Eddy Cue took some time today to show off Apple Pay at Oracle Arena in Oakland and oversee the rollout of the payment system at the stadium. Cue showed up to the event wearing a stainless steel model of the Apple Watch and provided some more details on how Apple Pay will work with it.
The executive explained that transactions made using the wearable device won’t require Touch ID or PIN code authorization, as long as the watch is unlocked and near its paired iPhone. The phone unlocks the watch, so there’s no need to confirm your identity again. To trigger the Apple Pay transaction, you just needs to double tap the button on the side of the device.
Cue also reiterated the claim from the Apple Pay announcement that the service will work on the watch even if it’s paired with an iPhone 5, 5c, or 5s, none of which support NFC payments by themselves. Those devices will require users to type in a PIN code on the watch or phone to authenticate (or, presumably, use Touch ID on an iPhone 5s, though that wasn’t confirmed).
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Launch details for the Apple Watch will be announced next Monday at Apple’s “Spring Forward” event.
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Not even Eddie can afford the gold version 😒
Or, he has taste.
“transactions made using the wearable device won’t require Touch ID or PIN code authorization”…”[iPhone 5, 5s, 5c ] will require users to type in a PIN code on the watch or phone to authenticate”
Confused. Which is it? Pin or no pin required?
No pin for 6 and 6 Plus, but pin for the older phones that don’t have NFC and don’t support Pay.
What does it matter if the iPhone that’s in your pocket has nfc or not? The Apple watch does, that’s how it can talk to the payment terminal. Makes no sense for you to have to type in a pin on the very small watch face or older phones, so I doubt this is how it works on those
In both cases (iPhone 6 and “others”) you have to “unlock” the payment system on the watch once “per day” (when you put the watch on). With an iPhone 6 you do that with your fingerprint. With the “others” you do it with a PIN.
Once the payment system is “unlocked” for the day, as long as the watch stays on your wrist and near the phone then all you need to do to pay is double tap the button and pay.
For what i have understood about Apple Watch, you have to confirm that the watch is on your wrist with TouchID on iPhone 6/ 6 plus/ iPhone 5s and with PIN on older iphones so you have to do it every time you put it on.
For the time it has contact with your skin you don’t have to use TouchID or PiN to pay only double tap the button :) Sorry for my english.
“you just needs to double tap the button on the side of the device.”
The Apple App Stores/iTunes need to start accepting Apple Pay for purchases.
Seems so much easier to just use my iPhone.
if one wears your watch and u authenticate it with your phone … And then the person takes your phone and walks away .. He will be able to make purchases…. Where as if he Walkes away with just your phone he wont be able to make any purchases without your finger print authentication.
Unless .. Somehow the watch knows whos hand it is on there seems to be a small/ tiny crack in the process.. But unlikly someone can take advantage of it ..
When the watch loses contact with your skin it will need to be re-authenticated.
Do all of you really believe you’re smarter than hundreds of people at Apple and that you can really dream up security holes in this system?!
With all respect to you friedmud, we do sometimes hear in the press about Apple’s “security holes”, so perhaps you should re-evaluate your stance about hundreds of people at Apple being smarter than everyone else. After all, they are infallible too.
I just showed u how it can happen.. Read the post again carefully and visulize whats happening ….
Unless there is some detail that Eddy left out… There is a tiny hole in the system.. But imho nothing that can be easly taken advantage of .
Your post wasn’t very clear. You said “one wears” did you mean that someone else is wearing your watch and you activate it?
If so: why did you activate it when it wasn’t on your arm?
Fried.. The senario is someone wears your watch.. U autenticate it.. Then they take your phone and walk away ..
They have free roam.
Someone taking just your iphone away does not have the ability to use apple pay !
I am merely suggesting a small hole in the process..
nothing big deal or easly taken advantage of !
OK. I see what you’re describing, but I would not describe that as a security hole. Is it a security hole if I want to loan my car to a friend by giving them the keys? I’d argue it’s not. Loaning my car to a friend is legitimate. Likewise with the watch. If I give it to a friend and authenticate them to make purchases, I won’t be surprised if they make purchases.
Well .. This is the prallel .. U lend your keys to ” someone” to go to the corner store to buy bear.. They take the car to a canyon road and push it to its limit!
With iphone/apple watch combination they have free roam
With iphone alone each transactuon needs individual autrntication .
Well, then you could drive to the mall, authenticate your wife’s aWatch, then she could storm any store when you cool it at the mall’s bar. Would be nice that way, but, but…… nothing but a blessing, but,
but, I think the iPhone has to be near to the watch to be able to make purchases. Sorry about the bar!
In the senario i suggested.. The person takes your phone and walks away !
I am merely suggesting a small hole in the process..
nothing big deal or easly taken advantage of !
yojimbo, I still don’t see a hole. Where exactly is the hole? If I give someone cash and they take it and walk away, is that a hole too?
“The idea is they have total freedom to spend as much as they can or as much as your card will allow.”
So it’s just like loaning your credit card to someone. Still not a security hole in my opinion.
Ok… Just an issue i see… Not a big deal ….
Anxiously waiting for the Presentation
Cheers
yojimbo007, I don’t get the scenario you’re trying to describe. Why would I put my Apple Watch on someone else’s wrist and then authenticate it for the purpose of Apple Pay? And if I did, it’s obviously someone I know and am trusting to make purchases. What’s the problem?
Chrish… I dont disagree with u
In the senario I am merely suggesting a small hole in the process..
nothing big deal or easly taken advantage of !
You keep saying there is a hole, but you’re not pointing out where the hole is. What you described is intentionally giving something to someone and then they walk away with it. Something is missing. Where is the problem?
The idea is they have total freedom to spend as much as they can or as much as your card will allow.
With iphone alone .. One needs to authenticate every transaction
With iphone and apple watch combination it is not so .. One can keep spending without individual transaction needing fingerprint authentication !
To me that is a hole .. not same level of security as if apple pay is used strictly through the Iphone.
Again .. I admit my senation can not easly be taken advantage of .. But it just demonstrates a point .
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