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Depth, breadth and music knowledge will be key to the success of Apple Music, say Eddy Cue & Jimmy Iovine

In an interview with The Loop, Apple SVP Eddy Cue and Beats founder Jimmy Iovine said that depth, breadth and musical knowledge would allow Apple Music to succeed in a market where all streaming services offer access to the same 30M songs.

“One of the things we wanted with Apple Music was depth, said Cue. “We wanted you to be immersed in it when you started using it.”

Iovine pointed out that playlists generated by algorithms tended to be predictable, while those curated by people with deep knowledge of the music industry could make surprising connections – using Bruce Springsteen as an example.

[With an algorithm, you can] pretty much guess what’s going to be played. Bob Seger, John Mellencamp, and Tom Petty are always popular choices.

What freaked me out is that Apple Music played ‘Paint It Black,’ which I happen to know is one of Springsteen’s favorite Stones songs.

Iovine said that most algorithms stuck to one genre and era, while human DJs could mix things up because “the DJ is in the middle, explaining how it works.” This, said Cue, generated greater breadth, and you could find a hip-hop track following a rock one … 

Cue said that there was still a role for algorithms, and that what Apple had needed to do was to figure out the best combination of human and automated curation.

You can’t do everything humanly curated, and you can’t do everything with algorithms. We have what we believe is the best of both.

Cue said it was impossible to persuade people that Apple Music would be better than the competition, you had to demonstrate it – giving the usual Apple line that the numbers follow the quality of the product.

Obviously, over time others will judge it by the numbers, but that’s not the way we’ve ever judged our products. The numbers are the end result. The way we judge it is are people loving and having an experience with it that’s better than anything they thought was possible. If that’s the case, the numbers always come out in the end.

Apple Music launches later today as part of iOS 8.4 and an update to iTunes on the Mac. It will include long-time streaming service holdouts AC/DC, as well as some streaming exclusives which include Taylor Swift’s 1989 album and Dr. Dre’s The Chronic.

Photos: Bloomberg, Michael Kovac/Getty

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Comments

  1. Paul Douglas - 9 years ago

    “The way we judge it is are people loving and having an experience with it that’s better than anything they thought was possible. If that’s the case, the numbers always come out in the end.”

    Good approach. Reminds me of Disney’s maxim: “Quality will out.”

    • friarnurgle - 9 years ago

      The numbers will come from offering a 3 month trial and having the service integrated into their ecosystem. People will switch/sign up and most won’t leave… unless the market is able to offer some price competition which may be challenging. Personally all this music service talk has me reconsidering why we pay for this stuff given the huge amount of free content online, via apps, and or podcasts.

  2. PMZanetti - 9 years ago

    I don’t get it. It’s the same music that was there yesterday. Are all these people too lazy or too cheap to discover music?

    • rogifan - 9 years ago

      Let’s face it this whole “human curation” thing just a marketing angle on Apple’s part. And getting Apple bloggers like Jim Dalrymple, Jason Snell, Rene Ritchie, John Gruber etc. to push “human curation” as something revolutionary (Jimmy Iovine did call Apple Music revolutionary at WWDC) even though it’s existed since forever.

  3. friarnurgle - 9 years ago

    Bull crap. Music is music. Just give us the content in a clean usable UI and integrate it into your eco system/devices. That is all that matters.

  4. Rich Davis (@RichDavis9) - 9 years ago

    But they don’t have anyone that knows all genres of music. They only have mostly guys that know only pop based music. Plus, I don’t need someone generating a playlist for me. I can do that myself. The only thing that I really want out of a streaming music is to generate my own playlists out of a catalog of music that’s bigger than my current catalog of music that I’ve collected, I am perfectly capable of generating that myself. They are adding to their overhead costs by hiring these DJ’s, so I don’t know how Apple is going to make this service profitable.

  5. patthecarnut - 9 years ago

    I see the “Six Flags guy” finally got a new gig. Good for him…

    http://i.imgur.com/e9zLhvJ.jpg

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